Alex goes to the comic shop, pt 2

[terra]

So sometimes I post on those giant comics messageboards. It can be cool, I've had discussions with creators/had Ed Brubaker tell me to stop being so continuity-obsessive, but oftentimes it reminds me what a cesspit of racism and misogyny the comics fandom can be. Like, yesterday, when I stumbled upon this gem of a post:

Marvel is loaded with strong and aggressive SuperHeroines. The negative quality of the Sue Storm's leadership is that portraying her as aggressive and extremely powerful makes her just another Marvel SuperHeroine. Some of us old timer guys still think that Sue is most effective when she emphasizes her traditional feminine qualities that she excelled at during the Silver Age (or should I say "Golden Age" of Stan and Jack), such as crying, screaming, acting afraid, being a wonderful mother, looking gorgeous, having to be saved by the men a lot, etc.

Yeah, this guy is confirmed not a troll, and several people either flat-out agreed with him, or parrotted his general thesis in slightly less blatantly offensive terms. (It's not that Sue can't lead because of her gender, it's because she's too much like a overemotional adulterous single mom!!) A fair number of sane people pointed out...you know, that this stuff is crazy sexist. But it just reminded me that one of the (many) reasons women are underrepresented in comics is because quite a few comics fans are misogynist toolbags. And one thing I can personally do to help counter this phenomenon is to buy a ton of comics featuring the ladies.

tl;dr rec me some comics involving womenfolk

Comments

[terra]

BUT THAT'S AN OVEREMOTIONAL WOMANLY RESPONSE

Man I hate that catch-22.

And yes, I'm a Buffy fan, I have read it.

[eppy]

FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF.

Like a man wouldn't punch someone who insulted him right in the face. I have witnessed enough barfights to know how this works. :| HYPROCITES.

Argh that was the best I had. And you impress me, normally when I mention it I get blanks looks of "Abwuh?"

[terra]

Yes, I know, it's horribly hypocritical. I'm also a fan of the "is it just that time of the month?" insinuation. Because obviously it's just my hormones talking, hormones I cannot control woe womenfolk, not, you know offensive statements.

But I mean this is the forum where I got called an angry black man and ungrateful negro, so. IDEK.

I have a friend with all the Buffy comics, so :) Although even he is getting a little...confused by Season 8.

[eppy]

I cannot even tell you how often men at my first job used to make hideously offensive statements, and then look utterly baffled when I got angry.

...what is this forum even. :|

I am...considering moving on to the rest of them. I hear things that are not so great about everything other than Fray, it makes me a little wary.

[terra]

I have a friend who works as a receptionist who has some similar problems.

USUALLY NOT THAT BAD; but it's one of the biggest forums. Of comics. But there was a weird teabagger invasion after Fox news got hold of Captain America 602. SO THAT WAS SOMETHING.

And yeah, Fray is definitely the best I've read. But there was...an arc with Fray in it in Season 8. And I liked BKV's Faith arc. And...yep.

[eppy]

Hideous.

AUGH THE TEABAGGERS. :| I literally just saw something on my home page for them today, goddamnit Brubaker, of all the crazy groups out there to use.

I usually like BKV and what he does. I must find these arcs and investigate them.