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What moment, in game or canon, would you say is your character's highest point? The time they acted the most heroically or bravely, or just the time they showed some basic human decency.
What moment, in game or canon, would you say is your character's lowest point? The time they acted the most villaniously or cruelly, or just the one time they made a really awful decision.
How does your character consider their own morality?
What moment, in game or canon, would you say is your character's lowest point? The time they acted the most villaniously or cruelly, or just the one time they made a really awful decision.
How does your character consider their own morality?
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Ollie's highest point is probably his death, when he sacrifices himself while saving Metropolis from some nasty explosive thing. He definitely gets the hero's post-death treatment. It should be noted, though, that his self-sacrificed is kind of colored by the knowledge that if he did make it out alive, he'd probably have lost an arm, which isn't okay for an archer. He really defines himself by archery, so he couldn't imagine being armless even for a second, let alone spending the rest of his life like that.
His most... Idk, morally ambiguous moment is probably all the Prometheus stuff in Blackest Night. He's always (since The Longbow Hunters anyway) struggled with the need to fit vigilante justice within a system that really works against it, and how, on a certain level, there's no way to really eliminate crime, let alone supervillains. But the whole idea of actually hunting them down was probably taking it a little far. It's doubly unfortunate because, even following Star City getting destroyed OYL, Green Arrow was its hero and a symbol of hope in a lot of ways. To lose that after the city was destroyed again is just too bad.
Jesse's people
Mordin Solus | Mass Effect
High: Sacrificing his life in the third game to undo said genophage and grant new hope to the species he doomed. In C&C... maybe treating an Import kid beaten by Vulcanus agents last year? Or defending the Clinic and continuing to treat patients during anti-Vulcanus riots in the City.
Calvin
High: Baby raccoon arc. That is all.
Jack Bauer
In-game, Jack once tortured Shego for information during the HIVE crisis, threatening to permanently damage her hands. The information didn't even end up saving anyone's life.
High: This is also difficult, considering that Jack has saved Los Angeles/America/the world roughly ten trillion times and habitually sacrifices himself. I'm going to go with his actions during the last bit of Day 2. A conspiracy was trying to start a war between America and the Middle East (long story), and Jack was captured and tortured for the location of information that could thwart the scheme. They literally tortured him until he flatlined and he didn't talk. Then he still mustered the strength to escape, stop the war, and bring down the conspiracy, killing its last assassin with his bare hands. Jack was willing to die alone and in agony to save complete strangers on the other side of the planet, and he didn't even let the dying slow him down.
In-game, I think I'll say the Iron Crown operation. That was a real errand of mercy, rescuing innocent people, taking incredible risk for absolutely zero reward.
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Connors' highest point is probably at the end, after the Lizard fight where A Very Spoilery Thing happens but it makes you smile and be happy. Also, probably during the post-credits scene also. His lowest point is everything he did as the Lizard. Everything ever. For Connors himself, the lowest point might be actually caving in and sticking himself with the Lizard serum. He's just so desperate that he does something horribly irrational and totally stupid.
Klarion has no high points and his low points are everything else. D: HE IS A HORRIBLE LITTLE SHIT. I think the lowest point is when he straight up killed a guy in The Demon, just because he could. Or all the shit he put Jason Blood through.
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Alastair hasn't done much for high points. Canon-wise, he let Kaiba beat him? Game-wise, probably using his language powers to alert the City to Godzilla's threat in time to evacuate. Since then he's pretty much done nothing except be selfish and only look after himself and his brothers. Low points, ahahaha well. Alastair's had a lot of canon low points on account of being a villain-henchman. His game-life has been a sequence of bad decisions but his worst point is certainly getting himself kidnapped by the Major, tortured, and left alone.
His morals are pretty lacking. He figures as long as he's not killing anyone directly he's a good enough person, but his morality basically extends to his own self-interests and the interests and safety of his friends and family. Hence, why he went along with anything Kiryu asked him to do. The only thing he really doesn't like is war and violence. Yet, he can be a hypocrite as well, so long as no one calls attention to it.
Sanji's highest point has got to be his attempt at saving Zoro's life by offering himself as a sacrifice to Bartholomew Kuma in Zoro's place. Something he doesn't ever talk to anyone about. He's never been quite so heroic in-City (not for lack of trying!) but most of his fights have been in situations where he wasn't helping anyone else at the time, benefitting neither his friends nor his crew. Unless I'm not remembering something from his early days, which is entirely possible. His low points are mostly his failures to live up to his own expectations - letting Kalifa beat him in canon, letting Callie beat the crap out of him, letting the Skrull ladies get away, etc.
Sanji's morals are fluid depending on the situation, he has only his kishido (code of chivarly, his gentlemanliness) to guide him and everything else is situational. He could kill, he could be merciful. He can steal or advocate leaving it be. Doesn't matter to him.
Geddoe has done heroic things secretly, nothing terribly public. If you take him in your final party or even choose him to be Flame Champion, things are different than if you let him sit it out, but he does take lead point in the temple in the battle to recover his rune. It's pretty ballsy of him to go up runeless against the guy who took it from him. His human decency, however, is clearest when he pushes to help the Karnar Clan of LeBuque gain their freedom from a legacy of third-class citizen slavery under Harmonia. In-City, he was part of the battle to take down Illidan (but got knocked out before the end) after having to kill Zelgadis. Low-point? I don't know. He's not very villainous. The only in-City decision he regrets is going to space to help rescue the people kidnapped by Skrulls - not the rescuing part, but the space part. It threw him for a loop.
His morals are as fluid as you would expect from a 100+ year old mercenary - he only really believes in freedom, in all senses, and anything else is a means to an end. But I suppose he does also believe in keeping certain things out of the hands of powers that will abuse them. If he has to break laws and do terrible things to achieve these goals, so be it, but he's also competent and wise enough to know that outright cruelty and lawlessness are not necessary 99% of the time.
Kotetsu is, by comparison to the others, so very heroic. His highest heroic point in canon hasn't happened to him yet as of his pull-point, but it's the ultimate in self-sacrifice. As of his pull point he has, however, thrown himself in front of shots/power blasts meant for Barnaby and gotten up despite being severely injured in order to keep going as long as he can. I'm hoping someday he can top that in-game. He's made some bonehead decisions but the only one he probably rues to any extent is going out to answer a call from HeroTV to go save strangers while his wife was dying, and missing his chance to say a final goodbye. Most of his bad decisions don't really have terrible consequences.
Generally speaking Kotetsu is a moral hero, a Good Guy. I mean, he fights crime for goodness' sake. There's only a few things he would allow himself to do for the sake of protecting the city/its people/his family and friends, but he would anguish about it a lot if he had to.
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- (canon) I'd say when he rescues O-Chul (& V), although that's questionable since he didn't do it on purpose.
- His earliest appearances, perhaps. Or the incident with the watching of dwarves. Or a few instances of apathy, which leads me into --
AS NICE AS THE MONSTER IS, HIS MORALS ARE QUESTIONABLE. He's more like a child - he understands that Good and Evil are things (he lives in a world with an alignment system) but doesn't fully understand right and wrong. He has his own weird morality that affects his own actions (ie not using his abilities to escape from the circus and hurt the guards because that'd be "rude"), but at the same time he can be remarkably apathetic and disconnected from other people's actions. As well as his own! He doesn't fully understand (or WANT to understand) the consequences of his actions. He mostly just does what he's told to without really thinking about the Right and Wrong of it. So in other words - he doesn't think about his morality at all --
except for recently.
Calendar Man
- http://imgur.com/P8gTB (this moment) - when he refuses to shoot Batman because he knows they're in the wrong. He never wanted the hostages to die.
- his lowest moment is uh LIVING IN HOLIDAY'S WALLS AND TRYING TO GET HIM TO COMMIT SUICIDE...
Calendar Man has his own set of morals and he views them as more important than other peoples - he does have rules and there are lines he doesn't cross -- normally. I COULD GO ON FOREVER BUT I HAVE TO GO SOON BUT TRUST ME WHEN I SAY I HAVE FEELINGS ABOUT THIS
Pherson
- er
- killing a bunch of people all the time
Pherson made his own morality after he got his powers based partly on what the Creators told him to do, and partly on his view that animals > people, and so he views violence against animals as an excuse to use violence against humans, since humans don't matter. He believes he's in the right, always.
Sentinel Prime
- He has his moments! Particularly when he wanted to go back for Elita-1, even if that meant fighting spiders, even if it was dangerous. Also there's a couple moments when he's willing to sacrifice himself in order to save others.
- THERE'S ALSO THAT TIME HE HIRED A BOUNTY HUNTER. OH AND WHEN HE WAS GONNA KILL ONE OF HIS OLDEST FRIENDS BECAUSE HE CLAIMED SHE GOT TURNED INTO A FREAK and was no longer the same person and yeahhhh
Sentinel makes poor life choices
SENTINEL ASSUMES HE IS ALWAYS RIGHT AND EVERYONE ELSE IS WRONG wow this is turning into a theme with my characters. Essentially, killing is wrong! Being a decepticon is wrong! He uh, is willing to sacrifice people and people's freedoms for the Autobot Cause (and also his own cause), and constantly justifies his decisions. :/
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I can't say Kenzi has done anything heroic in game so we'll have to go with canon. There's a few things in canon that Kenzi has done that were exceedingly stupid yet heroic. I can't really pick a highest point though. Like...there was threatening/hurting the Norn with a chainsaw to get Dyson's love back (which would in turn make him a whole person again instead of the douchenozzle he'd turned into without it). And let me just say, threatening the Norn is something that not even a Fae would do.
To better explain the whole chainsaw thing, the Norn is connected to a tree. You harm the tree you harm the Norn. So Kenzi took the chainsaw to the tree and made a few cuts until the Norn realized that the foolish human before her wasn't kidding.
There was the time that she made a deal with the Morrigan (that is the Dark Fae leader) to keep her boyfriend safe. This was both a high and a low because she was saving her boyfriend from pretty much going insane. See Evony (the Morrigan) is a leanan sídhe, that is a Fae that is something of a muse. Only while she does inspire those under her "care" she also feeds on their genius and eventually drives them to the brink of insanity. In which case they usually kill themselves. But saving him from this fate also meant crushing his chances of making it big. Which she knew it was what he wanted. She had to be the one to tell him that Evony had changed her mind about having him sign a contract with her. She had to be the one to see how much it hurt him. And naturally that made her feel like shit.
Also the deal she made was basically for Evony to call in a favour at some point in the future, no questions asked. And it could be anything.
Another case that is both a high and a low was Kenzi sacrificing her own happiness for the sake of those she loved. See, Nate (her boyfriend I mentioned before), didn't know about the whole Fae thing. Kenzi couldn't tell him because it wasn't her secret to share and it was driving her nuts. And with the way things were going lately it would be too dangerous for him to stay around. She feared for his safety. So when things were starting to get really serious between the two of them and everyone was telling her to take Nate and run as far away from all the dangerous stuff as possible, she did the opposite. She told Nate that she didn't love him (which she did). That it was all some six year old girl's fantasy come true. That she was finally getting with her crush and that was it, there was nothing after. She basically ripped Nate's heart out and stomped on it so he'd leave and be safe.
She gave up someone she loved because her friends needed her. But it was also a pretty selfish act. See, Kenzi doesn't want to give up this world she's found. And as much as she'd like to share it, she can't. So when given the choice to leave it all behind or stay and continue seeing all the amazing stuff, she chose to stay. But her staying is also a good thing in that her Fae friends did need her. While Bo might be more connected with humanity than some of the other Fae, she's still Fae. So the group really needs that human point of view for everything. Plus, Kenzi's kind of the secret weapon at times. Fae tend to brush humans off as not being a threat at all.
Last high point I'm going to ramble on about is when she went back to save Dyson when everyone else ran away. They'd thought that Dyson was really the chosen one to fight the Garuda (big ancient baddy that predates the Fae) only it turned out he wasn't. It ended with one member of the group dying and Dyson himself almost dying. Only Kenzi ran back and hid under some dead bodies until the berserkers got bored with beating the crap out of Dyson and left. So that's when she slipped out and dragged him from the place. It wasn't until everyone got back to the Light Fae HQ that they even noticed Kenzi was gone. If not for her going back Dyson would have died as well.
And then every low point in Kenzi's life is pretty the fact that she's a thief and conartist and very likely an alcoholic.
EDIT because I completely forgot the morality questions. Got kind of carried away on the other stuff...
Kenzi considers herself on the side of good. She hates the Dark Fae on the principal that they kill and do evil things for fun. She understands those kinds of things can be unavoidable and that's okay as long as you don't enjoy it. She's killed before, out of self defense, but she obviously didn't enjoy it.
But she doesn't consider herself completely good, after all she is a thief and she's selfish. She tends to put her needs before others unless the other person is someone she cares about.
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uh Isaac is pretty morally ambiguous in general and he knows it - he knows that what he's doing is wrong but at the same time he usually goes out of his way not to target anyone :| hypnotism is what he's best known for, and his unwillingness to really hurt anybody is probably part of that.
highest point: probably raising his kids tbh :< i mean, villainy is and was fun and everything but he definitely considers his children to be more important than all that
low point: DYING
AND THEN BEING FORCIBLY RESURRECTED
AND THEN DYING AGAIN
he doesn't like being shot in the head okok
UHHH AND Mami is fairly accepting of other people and is able to understand them (and makes an effort to understand them, too) and she's pretty friendly. She's basically the mentor-sempai type (even if it's kind of a facade) but she doesn't like to judge people and with time can get used to anything.
With time. :|
ANYWAY her highest moment is probably either saving people or sadly, her 'high' right before she gets eated :<
her lowest point is probably either going crazy in timeline 3 or failing to save a child at the start of her magical girl 'career' because she was too weak to fight the Witch who'd captured the kid (this is what motivated her to become stronger, mainly because of her guilt.)
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Kang's lowest point... I'd have to say his treatment of the females for the first year or so of their lives. He severely coddled them, and wouldn't allow them weapons training or to do anything where they might get hurt. It was out of protection, because there were only twenty of them, and he got a serious wake-up call from a friend about it before his relationship with the girls was beyond repair. He still feels utterly terrible for that. D:
He doesn't really consider himself evil, but he knows he sure as hell isn't good. He's done things that 'good' people would never consider, like eat a person (they were seriously short on food), ordered the deaths of innocents, and had villages burned to the ground. He never stopped or spoke up against any of the horrific treatment of human and elven women during the war, or torture, even though it made him uncomfortable and he didn't do any of it himself. None of it is anything he regrets, either, even though he doesn't do it anymore, and some of it, he would do again if he felt that it was needed. At the same time, he's always treated subordinates with respect, and has never been okay with sacrificing anyone under his care unless there was no way around it. He doesn't kill for fun or profit, and he tries to at least be civil with people unless they've really pissed him off. He really just considers himself to be practical, and that means you have to make not-so-nice decisions sometimes.
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-In canon, the plot to kill her stepmother. The plot has very shaky justifications that prove just how far gone she became after spending those months under a serial killer and how warped her sense of right and wrong became under stress. It's implied the woman hadn't crossed Gretel yet and she was just doing it to preserve her idea of family. And it's really quite creepy.
Gretel considers herself to be mostly good. She thinks she has this perfect set of unquestionable morals and justifies most of what she does as being for the greater good. However she fails to always follow on her on moral path and thus realizes she's no saint.
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-When she became momentarily suicidal after she injuring a bad guy. She decided she'd rather die from her fatal injuries rather than take the magic healing, because she decided she was a monster. It didn't last long and was never mentioned again, but still.
Katie considers herself to be a basically good person but she doesn't think she's some moral authority or anything like that. She realizes she's one of the good guys and generally likes doing the right thing, fighting down evil, etc. She's not nearly as self righteous about it as her brother was though, and she has some belief in gray areas that lead her to be a little more about the greater good than always doing right. But only a little.