all the kingdoms for a poll

[olesia]

GREETINGS BATS AND BITCHES
THIS IS OLESIA
IN CAPSLOCK
IN SPAM


HI


I'M HERE TO SOLICIT YOUR HELP IN SOME GOOD OLD FASHIONED PEER-PRESSURE
OF THE "APP THIS, YOU ALREADY MADE THE ACCOUNT
"AND COVERED SEVERAL THOUSAND YEARS OF HISTORY FOR THE BACKGROUND, MY GOD,
"AND ALSO THERE WOULD BE LULZ" VARIETY.

You see, I have this friend. This friend is *~*seriously considering*~* applying for a certain villain from a very popular book-and-film franchise. I sincerely doubt there is a member of this game that has not at least heard of this franchise. But no matter how often I (or the various other members of her team of friends) assure her that this is totally the kind of villain C&C would want around and plot with, she's worried that we are a band of filthy liars. Usually we are, but that's not the point. As such, I'm coming to you with a very short poll so I can prove to her once and for all that she really needs to stop doubting my brilliant schemes and settle in to go through with this already.

Good?
Good.
Go, please:

[Poll #1607411]

Thank you for your time.




And yes said character is listed on the reserves page if you're really interested.


also if you are bored, let's all go hang out in goddamnbatchat for the hell of it.

Comments

[shiromadoushi]

So, by that extension, could you also app the Sennen Ring? It's been shown to have a will of its own, moving on its own, choosing it's wielder (and sucking the lives out of those it deemed unworthy to wear it). If you go by CapMon continuity, it even abandoned someone it had let wear it and rolled away when it looked like things were going sour.

There's a difference between something having a will and something being a character.

[to-rulethem-all.livejournal.com]

Except, correct me if I'm mistaken, but hasn't that been said to be the spirit of the M. Ring controlling it in canon? If not it's been heavily implied, and I'm pretty sure that unless I've missed something the Ring has never acted independently of the Spirit. And in that case it already has been apped, yes, just as 'The Spirit of the M. Ring/Dark Bakura' not 'The M. Ring'. Not so in this case. In this case we have lines that explicitly state some pretty firm things in canon.

"The Ring betrayed Isildur" is the only direct quote that I know is a direct quote that I can think of right now, but if all y'all really want I can go dig up my physical copy of the book, rather than just the books on tape, and slog through for a bunch of similar quotes.

But see, that line alone is very telling.

Sauron was not working for or with Isildur, so it was impossible for Sauron to betray him. Attack or cripple or whatever you like, but betrayal where two parties are not in alliance in one way or another just don't happen. The Ring was supposedly working for Isildur as you know, Isildur currently owned it. However, if the Ring had merely fallen of his finger, that could hardly be called a betrayal. In order to be able to betray a thing, you must understand the concept of loyalty and be able to act in the opposite manner.

[shiromadoushi]

There have been times where the Ring moves when YB is surprised by it, and it's moved while YB was defeated [especially in the anime.] It's never been said anywhere in canon that YB is the one controlling the Ring at all times. It reacts with out his prompting quite a few times. [again, especially in the anime] Going back to the manga, before Thief King even makes his entrance, while Mahaado has the Ring, it reacts to Thief King approaching, as does the Toque/Necklace. Almost all the Items have been shown to react with out prompting in different places (the Puzzle added in the search for Jounouchi when he was dueling Kotsuzuka, the Rod showed Kaiba and YYuugi a vision during their duel in the Battle City finals, the Torque goes off all the time.)

See, I don't consider that line very telling at all because of how commonly it's said that an inanimate object or force of nature betrayed someone by malfunctioning. Heck, every other day I comment how Spellcheck's betrayed me. Something failing at a critical juncture can be very easily seen as a betrayal.

[to-rulethem-all.livejournal.com]

True, but not in the 'choosing the user/moving distance without being carried/etc' sort of way. The Millennium Ring, you must remember, was designed specifically to react to multiple things in canon. Those pointer things are there for a reason. And, at the same time, when it did things like the spikes buried themselves in Bakura's chest, that was the spirit of the Ring controlling it so that it behaved in a way separate to the purpose for which it had been made.

All of the items have been shown to be reactionary, yes, but that is how they were designed to act. The Ring, on the other hand, was designed mostly for one thing. To rule the other Rings of Power. It is not designed to be reactionary, and yet for some reason it still is. If ABSOLUTELY nothing else, it grows heavier and lighter, as well as larger and smaller, apparently in response to specific events. (It also has those letters that appear and vanish but as that has a specific stimuli - fire - I'm not counting that.)

And all right, I'll go dig up my omnibus volume. Though I might also say that it is said to abandon Gollum. Over and over in the relatively short amount of time that it's by itself words that are normally applied to self-willed objects are applied to it, and after a while it becomes highly suggestive. Years and years before I began roleplaying, before even the hint of anything like this idea had entered my head, when I first read LotR I was convinced that the Ring was sentient, and it's certainly a powerful force in it's own right. Most specifically, when Frodo either curses Gollum or prophecies at the end of RotK I was, and remain, convinced that the being speaking was not Frodo, but rather the Ring using him as an avatar.

Also, out of curiosity, have you ever read it? The book I mean, from end to end.