:C I was talking to Harley-mun specifically though, she's the one who had a character who usually is dressed conservatively (by comic standards) butchered into Suicide-Girl territory
that's what I meant for context! not ...female-led titles, I don't particularly care for fictional females in most genres, not just comic books. I think it's a wider problem than that.
Well Marvel does that too?? Like, how Black Cat is drawn, how Rogue is drawn— they both have full body costumes that are often just left unzipped to the navel for better cleavage? There are historical incidents like... Psylocke's race change with accompanying thong, or Carol's switch from Warbird back to Ms. Marvel— people have complained about Anya Corazon getting a skin-tight suit when she used to wear baggy street clothes.
I think it's p. common with the reboot to say "I'm going to Marvel!!" because of how DC's treating Waller, Oracle, Harley etc, which they are treating them awfully, but Marvel is probably not much better? So that is the idea I was responding to.
There's a lot of great stuff at Marvel!! Really, I love all their ladies. I don't think the company treats them much different than DC, they just have a harder time floating an ongoing because of the way the franchises are set up. (I.E. Avengers and X-men are team books. and support team spin-offs, Batman and Superman are solo books and support solo spin-offs.) But if you want non-Xverse recs I can give them!!
What frustrates me more about Marvel is actually the fandom. Especially Avengerside, it's just dominated by discussion about the dudes 24/7, and the movies are making it worse. I see fanworks of rule 63 of guy Avengers more often than I see fanworks of... the actual Avengers women, and it makes me rip my hair out.
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that's what I meant for context! not ...female-led titles, I don't particularly care for fictional females in most genres, not just comic books. I think it's a wider problem than that.
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I think it's p. common with the reboot to say "I'm going to Marvel!!" because of how DC's treating Waller, Oracle, Harley etc, which they are treating them awfully, but Marvel is probably not much better? So that is the idea I was responding to.
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I think it's time I head back into books and Bollywood films. Which are still problematic but I can get my dance on.
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(Anonymous) 2011-09-15 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)What frustrates me more about Marvel is actually the fandom. Especially Avengerside, it's just dominated by discussion about the dudes 24/7, and the movies are making it worse. I see fanworks of rule 63 of guy Avengers more often than I see fanworks of... the actual Avengers women, and it makes me rip my hair out.
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