EARLY MORNING NOT-MEME

[exceptfebruary]

This one is really simple:

WHAT IS YOUR CHARACTER'S RELATIONSHIP TO THEIR FATHER?

You can also talk about mother/lusus/creator/whatever if your character doesn't have a father, but ANYWAY

Father's Day is on the 17th, let's talk about DADDY ISSUES.

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[heartlessglitch]

this icon describes danger's relationship with her father
i wonder who could be driving that truck CHARLES XAVIER

[exceptfebruary]

LMAO best answer

[exceptfebruary]

WOW HAVE I SHOWED THAT ONE PAGE ENOUGH FOR CALENDAR MAN YET? CLEARLY NOT. warning for depressing childhood
But yeah, that's the most we ever hear about Calendar's parents! ABANDONMENT ISSUES. I AM GUESSING THEY DIDN'T HAVE MUCH OF A RELATIONSHIP AT ALL. Even though Julian wanted one. :c

Monster has a dad but barely remembers him, he like, disappeared or died or something :/ So his relationship is mostly non... existent...

HOW THE FRIG DO REACH EVEN WORK stares at Negotiator

Nothing is known about Pherson's daddy! I ASSUME IT WAS NORMAL, ACTUALLY. Not like, super close to his dad but not a lot of issues there. Heh.

FUCKING CAPTAIN COLD MAN
it's like
oh my god no why
His dad was abusive and Len hated him and left as soon as he could, and don't even get started on shit with Lisa and his dad, but the EVENTUAL POINT is that Len's dad is dead on his orders and he likes it that way.

I TAKE MY OWN NOT-MEMES SO SERIOUSLY

[douchess]

BAAAAW CALENDAR MAN

[crab]

KARKAT'S DAD WAS A GREAT BIG CRANKY PINCHY CRAB MONSTER THAT LIKED ROE CUBES

by karkat age 6

karkat loved him a lot. they were both pretty damn ornery and crabby with one another, they would bicker and strife a lot, but that's just how they roll. crabdad took good care of karkat and karkat took good care of crabdad. it was a healthy guardian monster-child relationship. also, before sburb and humans and whatnot, crabdad was the only other creature in existence that karkat knew of who shared his mutant blood color. i think that would have left karkat with a pretty deep attachment to his lusus. so yeah karkat adored his guardian even if they drove each other crazy.

aaaand then he ran a curse virus to spite sollux, blew up his computer and crabdad died in the blast. KARKAT STILL... HASN'T FORGIVEN HIMSELF FOR THIS. HE WAS SAD. HE MISSES HIS CRABDAD A LOT. though he will most likely claim otherwise if asked about it.

):B

[backatthehotel]

Long story short: Pink's father is DEEEEEEAD, and this is the foundation for a lot of his issues.
Song story: Here, about two and three quarter minutes. Lyrics here.

Long story long: Pink's father, A.J. Pinkerton, was a soldier who fought and died in WWII, when Pink was just a little baby Floyd. This fucked up his mother pretty badly, and understandably so. His death was the reason she became so smothering and overprotective of Floyd, afraid she might lose him to, to something or other. Growing up without a father (or at least a stepfather) was another way Pink was alienated from other kids, and without a male influence to support him, and help pry him out of his shell, he isolated himself, even at an early age, quite a bit more than he would have otherwise. That whole 'wall' thing.

His father's death, and his belief that the British govt was to blame, is (along with his awful primary school experience) is the source of his anti-government beliefs. The final lyric in the song linked above - "And that's how the high command took my daddy from me", says it all, I think.

Ironically, his father's death is also the source of his fascination with Nazism and fascism in general! He read extensively on the war as a child (and even now), trying to understand how and why hire father had been taken from him, and became drawn to these groups he perceived as having been 'strong enough' to kill his father, and leave such a mark on the world... (It would be hard, after all, for a lonely little boy, terrorised at school and smothered at home, to not envy that power.)

Growing up without any kind of strong, positive male influence, he's ended up really fantastic minion material, too, to boot. He's too smart to fall for being just a mook, but he's really desperate, deep down, for a replacement father. Give him a charismatic figure he can feel useful for, who gives him structure and throws him the occasional nugget of praise, and he'll do unspeakable things for them. (I can't help but imagine he's made some ill-advised business decisions, because of this, back home. And, well, we know what he's gotten up to in the City...)

[hypnosymphony]

oh my god, Pink 8((((

ISAAC LIKES YOU MAN HE CAN UH

TRY TO STOP YOU MAKING QUESTIONABLE/TERRIBLE DECISIONS BECAUSE HE CARES and also because he tends to want to take care of people that fall into the "subconciously need a father figure" category

[lyntergalactic]

KARA was very close with her dad. She's like the definition of a daddy's girl. But her dad died shortly after New Krypton happened and she blames herself for his death because, well. Her mom blamed her for his death. Kara has lots of mommy issues which I won't get into unless people are really interested in hearing about them, but not a lot of daddy issues!! Because it's like the one really good and healthy relationship she's had in her life alksdjfadlk

DAISY has three dads, essentially. There's her biological father, Mister Hyde, who she doesn't seem to be a fan of for... obvious reasons. Then she's got her adoptive father. We don't know who he is or what her relationship was, but she was a problem child who couldn't stay in school, turned to shoplifting, and given the chance changed her name from the one her adoptive parents gave her to the one her bio mom gave her, so I think it's safe to say it wasn't great. And then there's Nick Fury.

Nick is really her dad in all the ways that matter. He took her in, straightened her out, and gave her a purpose. Everything that Daisy Johnson is today is due to the fact that Nick saw something in her and decided to nurture it in his own fucked up way. I say fucked up because Daisy, while like a daughter to him, was also for the longest time his soldier and his personal hammer, as he put it. They have a pretty good relationship in that they seem to have a good amount of respect and father/daughter feelings for one another but it's also... kind of dysfunctional because of that. You just don't torture your kid for training if you have a non-fucked up relationship with them. Currently, their relationship is pretty good, but a little more rocky than it was in the past. Daisy's probably never fully going to get over everything that happened with Sebastian, Alex, and J.T. And if she ever found out that Nick was the one who let J.T. fall that would be... bad. But for the most part they have a p good relationship for a strange definition of good.

GWEN loved her dad. And he loved her! But their relationship doesn't seem like it was the best. Captain Stacy seems like he was married more to his job than his family, as when Gwen gets in trouble he literally does everything he can to avoid leaving work to come get her, and then when Gwen's mom leaves, he actually... leaves for a conference even though his daughter needs him :|a He seems to acknowledge the fact that Gwen deserves better parents than she got (he actually says "She deserves better than all this" iirc) but it doesn't really help with the fact that he's not the world's greatest dad.

Gwen, in the beginning, was kind of the definition of a problem child. She'd been expelled from school, she brought a knife to her new school and pulled it on a kid... Her dad didn't really know how to deal with that. He says in a conversation with Aunt May at one point that he's scared of his own daughter. Not for. Of. So there's some definite issues there even if Gwen and her dad did loved each other and seemed to recognize the fact that their relationship could've been better.

There's probably more mommy issues than daddy issues for Gwen as her mom is really a piece of work, but since we don't see her family much, it's hard to tell. It's likely that her parents fought a lot which would warp a relationship a little, and there's a few things that show up in the comic and are soon after forgotten that makes it seem like Gwen was kind of depressed for a while (like her really glib comment asking if she can kill herself on Peter's front lawn, her comment about never acting natural, the whole crying in the dumpsters incident) but it's kind of a toss-up as to how much her relationship with her dad played into that. It's probably not much. Because Gwen holds grudges but loved her dad. However, his absence is probably something that played into it and I totally lost where this comment was going so I'm going to stop now.

CAROL IS THE QUEEN OF DADDY ISSUES. She loved her dad. She loved him and he loved her, and he sparked her interest in planes, and he called her Kitten and it was... a really fucked up relationship. There were good parts to it!! They wouldn't have been able to actually love each other otherwise, but Carol mentions in recent canon that when she digs into her memories of her father the first thing she thinks of is her dad yelling at her. And that says a lot right there without the rest of the story.

She had a very, very, very rocky relationship with her father the older she got. When she was a kid who didn't really understand things it was probably easier, but Carol's fiercely independent and she has her father's temper, so the older she got and the more she could understand what her father did, the worse the relationship got. And what her father did was be a misogynistic asshole, basically. He was a very traditional man who thought that a woman's place was in the kitchen. He refused to help Carol go to college because she, and I quote, "[Didn't] need to go to college to find a good husband." Later on, when Carol was working at Woman magazine, her father refused to even take a look at his daughter's hard work until J. Jonah Jameson "got smart" and put a male editor in place.

In addition to that, Carol's brother Steve was really the apple of her dad's eye. Her younger brother Joe also got a lot of attention from her dad, but Steve... Steve was the shining star of the family in her dad's eyes. And Steve's death is what pushed her father into alcoholism. Carol was still in high school when it happened, so having that be some of her last memories of her father before she went off to join the Air Force couldn't have been easy. This is really important though because everything Carol is, her drive, her determination... It was sparked by this childhood need to be just as good—if not better—than her brothers in her father's eyes. Which is really an impossible goal, and not just because her father would never accept her accomplishments because she was born with a vagina.

Kelly Sue DeConnick gave a one-sentence summary of Carol Danvers in an interview a while back and it was "Crackerjack pilot races to prove dead daddy wrong," and that's pretty much the best description of Carol there is. She's always, always striving for something that'll make her daddy proud. When she visits her father at the beginning of Dark Reign she tells him while he's unconscious about her spy days, how she was saving the world before she had superpowers, and how she was a real super-spy than higher clearance than two of the last three Presidents (even though that's... not really possible...) and she says, "Would that make you proud? No, I don't think it would."

Her relationship with her dad is really kind of tragic because it was awful in some ways, and while it did result in Carol being the woman she is today, she could've been just as driven and determined if she'd actually had encouragement from her father growing up. Instead, she's left with his desire in her to still make her father proud, but since he's dead... Well, that's something she's never going to get from him. And that's really kind of sad.

[magicalworld]

Calvin's Dad is a patent attorney! He is much more button-down than his son and is often exasperated by his antics (like when Calvin destroys the car, or the binoculars, or the bathroom...). He is always trying to instill more responsibility and maturity in Calvin by convincing him that bug bites and sub-zero bike rides build character. In return, Calvin often teases him about his obvious midlife crisis in ways that can be downright cruel.

Despite this their relationship is on the whole positive and loving and supportive. Dad always does his best by his son despite often being bewildered by him and sometimes musing that they should have had a dachshund instead. He often plays along with Calvin's flights of fancy instead of telling him 'no your Dad is not an elected position and that poll is made of crayon.'

In particular it seems that Calvin gets his creativity, imagination, and mischief from his Father, as evidenced by Dad's talent for wonderful, horrible lies.

On that note, this thing is awesome.

[bumbumbum]

I'm subscribed to 'Explain Like I'm Calvin'. It may be the greatest subreddit in existence.

[fingerbang]

LUST'S DAD, WHO IS LITERALLY CALLED FATHER AND SOMETIMES "HOMUNCULUS" AND NOTHING ELSE, is pretty much the linchpin around which her entire life revolves! He's a 500-odd-year-old abomination who has a lot of designs on the country he basically controls from the shadows, and all of those are spoilers for FMA and complicated so I'm not even going to bother going into them. Basically, all you need to know is that Lust is pretty much completely devoted to that vision and appears to have as good a relationship with him as two affection-devoid freakshows can have. She lists "feeling affection for a creator" as one of the similarities homunculi have with humans and it looks like she has a lot of mobility within the ranks, so! He's her boss and her creator, and she seems to be perfectly content with her personal status quo even as she gets burned to death. Also she is literally a part of his soul/personality/whatever that he expelled from himself by basically... crapping monster babies from his chest..... so there's that.

also sometimes he looks like this

michiko grew up in an orphanage and had zero father figures, the end

[out_of_time]

It says a lot that Lust has one of the healthier, more affectionate paternal relationships in the game

[goryteller]

Katurian's father was an eccentric artist that filled his childhood with love, over-the-top praise, and constant venues for artistic expression. He and Katurian's mother also spent seven years regularly torturing their other son within earshot so that Katurian could be "inspired" by the suffering.



Yeeeah.

Archer's father is a mysteeeery, and this makes him so tragically sad. I'm guessing his identity will be a big twist at the end of the series or something. Spoilers, it was Krieger all along.

The Narrator is made of father issues. His father abandoned him when he was a wee lad, and apparently he calls him, like, once every five years to make sure he makes his fathering quota. This is insufficient.

[exceptfebruary]

KATURIAN'S PARENTS............

[trickshot]

MONICA。 probably does not have a father! we hear about her mom and sisters, and her mom lives with her to help take care of her son julius, but there is no father in the picture. i imagine that there hasn't been, for awhile; he was either dead or gone long ago, during monica's childhood. this doesn't really impact her, much.

of course, there's the issue of who julius' father is! it is pretty much confirmed to be nick fury, but there's a significance to the fact that monica doesn't let him occupy that role. julius is her son, not nick's.

DONNA。 also doesn't really have a father, at least not a biological one! she's diana's mirror-twin, and diana obviously doesn't have a father. however, donna was raised by the titans of myth, and of them rhea was her actually adoptive mother. coeus and phoebe were kind of like adoptive parents, as well, but then coeus married donna so i prefer to ignore the previous parental-role. in her mortal life, donna had a foster father named carl stacy, but he died when she was infant and for the longest time she didn't even remember he existed. tl;dr - she's an amazon and amazons don't need dads.

DAMIAN。 also known as "prince of daddy issues." damian's dad is bruce wayne, and yes he is batman. damian didn't actually meet bruce until he was 10, though talia had told him stories about how amazing batman was. damian really wanted his father's approval, but ended up killing someone, and then basically was just a big pain in bruce's side. bruce acknowledged him after this whole thing with ra's al ghul, but talia was like "i'm not going to let my son be a soldier for you" (though being an assassin is okay?). eventually, bruce died! leaving damian with unresolved feelings.

dick and alfred sort of took over the father-role for damian, though i suppose you'd technically name them big brother and grandfather. but they are the ones who act like fathers to him, teaching him and supporting him emotionally. when bruce does come back, damian makes a big deal about wanting to stay with dick ("what about batman and robin?") so i think that's a pretty clear indication that dick was worth more to him as a parental figure than bruce, at that point.

damian both loves and hates bruce. he desperately wants his approval and to live up to his legacy, but at the same time he wants to reject bruce before bruce can reject him, again. he is insanely jealous of his adoptive siblings because bruce chose them, whereas he was saddled with damian. so basically damian constantly feels the need to prove himself, even if bruce doesn't mind his existence, anymore.

CLINT。 clint's dad was an asshole. his name was harold barton and he was an alcoholic who routinely got drunk and beat his sons. and then he got himself killed in a car crash, along with his wife. failed authority figure count: 1.

from there, clint and his brother went to the circus, where clint was taken under the wing of the swordsman and later trick shot. he looked up to these men, respected them, wanted to be liked them... and they both ended up horribly disappointing him by being bad people. (though they both get redemption, down the line! i suppose clint can feel better about that.) failed authority figure count: 3.

and then later on his elder brother goes bad guy and then is dead but seemingly innocent and then comes back and is a villain again!! now he's a dark avenger or something i don't even care. failed authority figure count: 4.

the joke is that, upon joining the avengers, clint gets a not-suckish father figure--captain america!! but by that point he's such a bundle of daddy issues that he picks at cap all the time just because he can. and obviously their primary relationship is as friends/comrades, so the father thing is a bit of an undercurrent (though it is not at all subtle).

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Wow. Those panels are about as subtle as a brick to the face.

[out_of_time]

Jack's relationship with Phillip was strained before he found out Dad was a terrorist. Phillip was the founder and CEO of an evil megacorporation called BXJ Technologies, and put Jack under enormous pressure throughout his life to follow in his footsteps in the family business. This eventually drove Jack to leave his family and join the Army, for the sake of making his own path in life and being his own person. So basically the whole reason Jack ended up as a legendary counter-terrorist agent was to rebel against his father.

Phillip was a lot like his son in many respects: ruthlessness, an ends-means mentality, total determination, dedication to those close to him. But Phillip was devoted exclusively to his legacy, to the company he'd built, and embraced illegal means of furthering his goals. He cared about his family but was willing to hurt each and every one of them to achieve his ends.

The list of crap he was responsible for was a long one; to make it short the last time Jack saw him was on a BXJ oil rig after his attempt to screw America over to the Chinese and kidnap his grandson to continue his legacy had fallen apart. Unable to drag his corrupt father off the rig before an airstrike blew it to bits, Jack's last words to Phillip were 'You're gonna get off easy."

[goryteller]

Dad was a terrorist

JACK'S DAD, NO

[inspirefear]

Alex:
Probably one of the few characters that has a really good relationship with his father. Alex admires his dad, he's his hero, and there isn't anyone who can compare. He keeps his father on a pedestal, Ares is all knowing and not only his father but his friend. Yet at the same time he is aware the two of them, being gods, will not always be on the same side. That doesn't change how he feels toward his father, though, if anything, they respect each other more for that.

Ares is very proud of Alex and is essentially the only thing he feels protective toward. While he has had many offspring, he has only one son. He has done his very best to be a good father toward Alex and it shows. His efforts has made up for a lack of a mother figure in his son's life.


sorry for any typos (and rambling), i am typing on my stepmom's laptop and it's stuck on spanish spell check so everything is underlined with red., orz

[incywincyhero]

So! Peter's bio dad was Richard Parker, but he and Peter's mom pissed off the Red Skull and died in a plane crash when Peter was itty-bitty, so he went to live with Richard's older brother Ben and his wife May. Though he refers to them as Uncle Ben and Aunt May they are his parents in all but name. (And also his grandparents, sort of, because Ben was much older than Richard and raised him after their own parents died. But nevermind that.)

We've only really seen Ben in flashbacks and the occasional jaunt into an AU, but between those and Peter's reverential attitudes it's clear that he was a storybook perfect dad, the Captain America of fathers if you will. (Or perhaps Steve is the Uncle Ben of superheroes -- certainly Peter sees him as representing the same kind of values as Ben, though he does not see Steve in any kind of fatherly light.) He was affectionate and supportive -- although he did gently push at bb!Peter to get away from books and try getting some sunlight once in a while, he was encouraging of his love for science and enthusiastic about his youthful accomplishments. He was kind of a goofball (well, Peter had to get it from somewhere) but placed a very high value on integrity and thoughtfulness. He could throw down when he needed to but considered violence a last resort after negotiation. Basically, Peter worshipped the ground he walked on and had good reason to.

And then when Peter was fifteen, and a newly minted superguy, Uncle Ben was murdered by a burglar whom Spider-Man was too lazy to apprehend. Thus due to his own actions (or so he believes) Peter was deprived of a father figure just as he was hitting that cusp between childhood and adulthood. So it's absolutely no surprise that Peter's left not just with the punishing sense of personal responsibility, the crushing guilt issues and the deeply buried explosive rage, but one "humdinger of a father complex," as another character refers to it in one of the novels.

Though he will never admit it and probably isn't consciously aware of it most of the time, there's nothing Peter craves more (or believes he deserves less) than the approval and absolution of his father. This has led him to make some really terrible decisions, of which the most prominent have been cutting Norman Osborn slack for Harry's sake, which ultimately contributed to the death of Gwen Stacy, and more recently throwing in with Tony Stark during Civil War, which nearly got Aunt May killed and destroyed his relationship with MJ. Meanwhile, Peter's side of the Spidey-Jameson dynamic makes a lot more sense if you consider it as a masochistic cycle in which Peter repeatedly puts himself on the line for the one guy who will never, ever give him any kind of validation.

And then there's all the comparably small potatoes stuff, like his laxness towards elderly gentleman thief Black Fox, his college mentor Miles Warren becoming the Jackal, etc etc.

It's not all bad, though! There are two older gents who've had a uniformly positive effect on Peter's life, namely:

- Robbie Robertson, who he dearly respects but holds at arms' length emotionally;
- Captain George Stacy, by far the closest thing Peter's had to a father since Ben died, who mentored Peter as both a hero and a young man and who ... tragically died ... in a skirmish between Spidey and Doc Ock ... because Ock's tentacles knocked over some rubble which fell and crushed him ... which they did because they malfunctioned ... which happened because Spidey altered his webbing formula.

Okay, it's pretty bad. But hey, keep him away from dudes over 40 and he functions pretty normally!

[out_of_time]

I never knew the Red Skull killed Peter's parents!

[hexappeal]

ZATANNA has all of them. All of them. He was perfect and loving and aside from being a bad ass in the history books who helped defeat Hitler, he was completely devoted to both her (and her mother, who was assumed dead until Zee was in her mid-twenties). When he was cursed to never see or come into contact with her in any way or she would die, Zatara went off to find a way to turn it all around.

Blah blah blah, Zee finds him and curse is lifted until the Crisis comes and the fight with the Great Beast. Sargon, another golden age mystic (though kind of dickish and dabbling in crossing the lines of true darkness) dies and Mento's brain kind of fries (though it doesn't end up being permanent). Zatara dies in the most bad ass and dignified way ever while simultaneously threatening Constantine, who still blames himself for the guy's death.

It sucks.

Zatara's death is used to haunt Zatanna at every turn and will sometimes pop up to remind people of the grim results of walking the path of magic.

Not long after this, the Spectre intervenes to lead his soul to the afterlife. Except he ends up in Hell. Surprise! Being a good person in the DCU is not necessarily enough to spare you from an eternity of torture! In Hell, Zatanna consigns him to soul death but who cares! Dini does what he wants! So his soul's kind of in ghostly limbo for the moment, but I'm sure the DCNU will jump on this the second they get the chance, too.

Basically, she really loves her father. She more has abandonment and loss issues than she does daddy issues, but he was extremely important to her. Though her mother's death hurt her, she didn't know the woman like she did Zatara.

The end.

[magicalworld]

Dear god Zatara can not catch a break

[puggle]

mine will nest here

MATT

[puggle]

Matt's father is pretty much the greatest, most important dude who ever lived. He raised Matt as a single father, sacrificed everything to make sure Matt could have the best they could afford. Jack was a pro-boxer, a guy with no real education who made his money with his fists, and he wanted much more for and from his son. He was a strict father, he was a drinker, and on occasion he did hit Matt, but Matt still idolizes him to this day. He's motivated by the desire to make his father proud, and avenging his father's murder by the mob is what inspired him to create the Daredevil persona. Basically Jack was a really flawed guy, but one Matt truly loves and holds as his inspiration. Because of Jack, Matt learned to be unafraid and to never give up.

[symmachy]

gemma has huge issues with her father. after her mother died, her father became addicted to laudanum and subsequently distant from the world and his family. near christmas he was weaned off laudanum, but he then tricked gemma into giving him his entire stash. her brother, thomas, was so upset because he was a doctor and prescribed the drink to her father to help with his grief. so after he cleaned up off laudanum, he became addicted to pure opium and spent days on end in opium dens. gemma had to drag him out of one with her own two hands. after this, she made the nearly fatal mistake of using her magic to try to heal him. he nearly died from the experience, and was driven temporarily insane because her magic allowed dark spirits to enter his mind.

he was sent to a sanitarium and fell into a depression that made him easily forget where he was and zone out. he started to call gemma "virginia," her mother's name. finally, he was shipped back to india "for his health," and gemma knew he'd die there. but she still loves him, and always hoped that he would recover on his own.

scathach definitely has issues with her dad as well. she ran into a full-scale riot just so she could get a closer look at him. she had always heard awful stories about him. they were all true. he was the warden of the danu talis (atlantis) prison, and was super good at that job. she says she doesn't remember much about him, which is probably true seeing as he disowned her when she was just a kid. but she also just doesn't like to think about how much of an awful person he is. nicholas flamel became something of a father figure to her, and his wife perenelle a mother. she loves them more than any humani ever (except maybe cu chulainn).

rikku actually likes her dad. her dad taught her everything she knows about machina and spira, and even though they had their falling out in x-2, they made up and are cool with one another again. he might not have done a stunning job of raising her after her mother died, but the al bhed function like a tribe so one child was everyone's child.

molly loves her dad and is probably a daddy's girl.

nill's dad is probably the good doctor.

[hulk]

..................AHAHHAHSDFHASUIFLAKWEF;AWEI'FOAWKEF;AOIWEHFA[WOIEFLKNsobbingbrokenly

okay, due to lack of explicit MCU canon on this, i go with Bruce's 616 early history which is especially depressing even for Marvel i shit you not

Brian Banner was a raging alcoholic with an emphasis on rage because he would beat the utter shit out of itty bitty Bruce because the kiddie started being intelligent. Bruce's mom Rebecca tried to stop it but would also get beat for her troubles. Took some years before she finally got up the courage to go and leave her husband and get Bruce out of there. except Brian woke up earlier than expected and intercepted them, beat Rebecca to death, and started to do the same to Bruce before somebody called the cops.

Brian got shipped off to an insane asylum and Bruce was riddled with massive fucking issues for the rest of his life 8DDDDDDDDDDDDD

so yeah the relationship there is

yeah

it's not good

[hulk]

Okay, since apparently even though it hurts like hell to do so - let's get all essay-ish and deep into this as my heart breaks.

Bruce has never, ever, ever gotten over what happened and why. It took very little for Brian to start blaming Bruce for whatever had happened that day and start whaling on him - so everything had to be his fault; doubly so because his mom was getting hit too and she wouldn't have been if it wasn't for him. He so readily and wholly believes this that a) he believes everything is his fault, and so falls over himself to apologize for any possible slight, whether or not it's... actually a problem and b) he believes he shouldn't react angrily to anything because he deserves all the bad things that happen to him. So all that anger goes and gets shoved down and denied and repressed and ignored and is MOST FUCKING LIKELY WHY HIS SUBCONSCIOUS HOUSES A GIANT GREEN RAGE MONSTER.

It's probably also the reason that Hulk is invulnerable - because of that subconscious want to never get hurt again. Hulk's everything Bruce isn't, after all. u___u

It's also led to a lifelong side-eye when it comes to alcohol. Bruce has never drank booze, and never plans to.

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Xanatos has a strained relationship with his dad. We know jack shit about Xanatos's mom, so it's safe to assume that he was raised mostly by his dad. His dad really disapproves of his lifestyle and feels that money is all that Xanatos cares about. Xanatos has a bit of a dad complex, as shown by him inviting his father to his wedding and basically going 'hey dad hey dad hey dad look at me look at what I did, don't you like me dad?'. Needless to say, Xanatos and his father probably don't talk that much/at all.

Klarion's dad is missing in action. c: He went above to Blue Rafters and ~vanished~. So, Klarion was raised mostly by his mom and sister. His dad also may or may not be Ebeneezer Badde aka the guy who Klarion killed by a horde of subway children. Oh comics.

[backstabbing]

NEITHER OF MY CHARACTERS KNOW THEIR FATHER.

ALTERNATIVELY ISABELA KNOWS HER DAD AND HE WAS JUST NOT A MAJOR ROLE IN HER LIFE BUT I'M ASSUMING SHE JUST GREW UP WITH HER MOM since she only mentions it being her mother selling her into marriage with no mentions of a father in sight.

also everyone in Dragon Age only ever talk about their mother/mother figures. Morrigan, Zevran, Leliana...no fucks are given towards the father figures.

Chell's dad is mentioned only if you assume that potato project poster is hers (which it probably is) and if you enhance the poster to be legible you can read it and it sounds like Chell and her father had a relatively uneventful, normal father/daughter relationship. Which she doesn't remember.

I SEE THAT ICON

[phobic]

Ghost had headcanon a supportive older mother and father who were tolerant of their only child's then-mild eccentricities and sloppy hygiene in view of that he was clearly the absent-minded professor sort. I don't think they discouraged him from following his dreams (though maybe they should have) and they clearly raised him to be kind, gentle, and thoughtful of other people. He never mentions them and from the way he doesn't gravitate to leadership in any way shape or form, I can only conclude he has a strong enough sense of self not to want or need the direction of any father-figure stand-in.

Walker had a dad who instilled in his son unswerving values of faith and optimism--and Walker clearly adored his father from even the brief on-panel time they shared. Right up until his dad fell to his death off a rotten bridge and they had to bury him. Walker's awareness of his dad's belief in him spurred him on when he needed it the most.

Jon has generalized abandonment feelings. He points out his dad was a cold motherfucker to abandon his mother and his then unborn-son and swan off to parts unknown, and circles around several years later to torture and hopefully kill dear old dad. He never had any strong male figures in his life, save for a professor at Gotham University he ended up killing, who prior to that he had clearly replaced his father with (but who failed to stand up for him when the board fired him, a betrayal he viewed as inexcusable).

Piper has serious father issues. He says he felt neglected from the get go, even though his parents spent a ton of money on his hearing (when they finally noticed he was deaf) and his dad was not supportive of his composition when he finally started playing music around the age of ten. If Hartley was anything as a child as he is as an adult, he trolled for response, maybe even harder, and got into numerous fights with his father. He also used his music as a way to separate them or pretended he couldn't hear his dad, and generally displayed the kind of cruelty and pettiness only frustrated teenagers can manage towards their parents. Finally when he dropped out of the upteenth college, he outed himself to his dad, had a roaring argument, stole some money and left.

Then after he Rogued, and his parents did everything they could to cover up his crimes (to "protect the family name", Piper observed with disgust) he adopted the Rogues as a new family. Barry Allen died. Piper realized suddenly that life was precious and time was finite, and returned home to beg his family's forgiveness, older and wiser. (He still joked, "it's your bad penny of a son") and it was evident he was rebuilding his relationship with his parents through good works, patience, forgiveness and open apology for his angry fiery childhood.

Then he murdered his father and mother under hypnosis.

[viced]

Oh Jon.

Jon, Jon, Jon. I love his issues

[viced]

MITCHELL does not have daddy issues because his mother killed his dad when he was a baby. AND I COULD TAKE THIS IN SO MANY ALTERNATE DIRECTIONS but uh. He had a father figure? And his father figure loved him a lot and helped him become a superhero, and then when Mitch decided to quit he spent the entirety of the series trying to get him back to being a superhero which went really, really badly. And then: Mitchell killed him. So he has issues with people getting close but we all knew this anyway.

TONY Oh god, Tony has some issues about his father. Howard was never necessarily abusive, and it's alluded that he really did love his son, but Tony was something of a handful as a kid, and not only that, but Howard wanted Tony to succeed, so he drove his son hard. Honestly? Their relationship was a pretty classic fifties father/son relationship. Howard did drink too much, and got Tony to do so a few times, but a lot of the issues are just that he was used as a plot device when Marvel wanted to put in an "evil" authority figure in Tony's past. I don't think he begrudges him, but I think his influence is probably one of the reasons why Tony doesn't...ever want to settle down.

OSWALD, HIS FATHER DIED WHEN HE WAS VERY YOUNG. (ha ha star wars reference) But his father's death pretty much cast a shadow over his entire childhood. Actually, it was his mother's reaction to his father's death. But ozzie suffered just the same.

JACK HIS FATHER ABANDONED HIM BECAUSE HE COULDN'T HANDLE HAVING A KID WHO KEPT SAYING HE WAS ABDUCTED BY ALIENS. Despite the fact that it was true. Kind of. But yeah, poor Jack.

SHADE, IT WAS LIKE ALMOST 200 YEARS AGO. I DON'T THINK HE CARES ANYMORE. aka I don't know, and Shade doesn't really....give any indication of feeling any effects from an abusive father. Everyone was an asshole in the Victorian era anyway.

[clement]

Mitchell.

[birdplane]

PIETRO has a terrible relationship with his father. They have a habit of blaming each other for all the terrible things that have happened to their family. Pietro blames Magneto because he's Magneto and generally sees his children as an extension of himself rather than their own people, and Magneto blames Pietro because he's an impulsive ass who has a little bit of a victim complex. They're both... Kind of right about each other in their own way. It really makes Pietro mad that he looks like Erik, though. Like Wanda could potentially not be Magneto's kid, with Pietro there's really no question. Yep.

STEPHEN had a very typical relationship with his father. He's a very stubborn person and so toward the end of his father's life they had a falling out, but other than that it was pretty boring. His parents were apparently pretty disappointed in his "character" toward the end of his school career which makes sense. It was after the death of his sister that he really started his selfish, downward spiral so... They probably were noticing that.

VICTOR had a fairly good relationship with his father. He didn't have an especially low or high regard for the man and didn't obsess over him nearly as much as he did his mother. He valued Werner's devotion to his family, and understood that his evasiveness regarding his mother was out of a desire to protect his son. I think Doom would still consider him a "lesser man" probably not really fit to lead, but he wasn't an awful person. Just typical to his situation.

JASON's biological father was a thug and he's well aware of that, but he also grew up in Crime Alley where everyone was a thug, so I think he probably knows he can't really judge on that alone. He has a love/hate complex with Bruce that's pretty hardcore. On the one hand, he greatly respects everything that Bruce has accomplished, on the other hand Bruce failed him and continues to fail Gotham by not being willing to dirty his hands or get over his principles in the name of practicality. I think Jason probably wants to hate him, but there's a little bit too much ingrained respect and adoration there for that to really be true. I also think that it's probably hard for him to separate his feelings for Bruce Wayne, his adoptive father, from his feelings on Batman as an abstract concept.

OLLIE didn't have an especially good or bad relationship with his parents. They just were off being rich and doing cool things and then were killed by lions. No really.

AOI's parents are never mentioned in canon. My headcanon for them is that they were pretty typical, but he didn't get along with them super well because of his own neurosis and romanticizing of adolescent coming of age fiction such as Catcher and the earlier works of Fitzgerald.

[dreamself]

JESS has no dad.

or on the other hand, she has a bunch of dads and theyre all awful. you have the traditional PETER PARKERS DAD DYING AND THEN UNCLE BEN BEING THE REPLACEMENT DAD AND THEN HAVING THE MOST INFAMOUS MOMENT IN COMIC HISTORY things going down with her. but Nick Fury also plays a father role in that Peter Parker really did see him as a father figure and no doubt that bleeds over to Jess as well since she currently works with him

and then you have her "dad" of whom she lovingly refers to as daddy, Otto Octavius, who helped create her. and she hates him with every fiber of her being. Otto stole Peters DNA and created her along with five other clones. they all proceeded to die off except for Jess and Otto and her relationship got really sketch until she put him in SHIELD. and then he escaped and she tried to infiltrate Roxxon and he found her and tortured and then he was killed by Norman.

suffice to say, they dont get along very well and she was looking forward to the chance to kill him. 8{

JEN was actually raised by her dad!!! her mom died in a car crash when she was a teen, so it was up to her dad, William Walters (whos the LA sheriff) to raise her. their relationship was kind of rocky in that she was always living under what her father wanted for her, since she was so shy and mousy and whatnot. that changed when she went She-Hulk though, and their relationship got really strained since.... he was trying to kill her.............

of course everything worked out in the end though, and eventually her father stopped trying to kill her, but their relationship was still rather tense at points simply because of the fact that she loved being She-Hulk and that was strange to him. eventually they do reconcile, so thats good!!! but yes Jen loves her dad and they are very, very close.

apparently hes dead now because no ones allowed a happy family situation so.

NAMORA um.....we dont really know much about her father tbh??? her mother was this Icelandic woman they kidnapped and impregnated for the sake of eugenics.... and her father, we see on screen for all of two panels. he marvels over her swimming speed??? i imagine that she was at least, particularly close to her father since she says later in canon that she was raised to be a court person so i imagine he was a little strict and controlling with her???? but when he was murdered by raiders, she was determined to avenge his death so.

DEATH lmfao.................

[crab]

death

[alldeduction]

Sherlock!

Sherlock's father is never referenced in the show (his mother is), so I generally consider him to be pretty absent and probably dead.

His brother filled in for both parents, in the most likely case, even while their mother was still alive... Myrcroft's line: "I'll be mother" was recieved with a very quick "Well there's a childhood in a nutshell" from Sherlock, and since Mycroft is seven years older than him, that makes a lot of sense. The only other reference to his parents is a throw away line how Sherlock 'always upset Mummy', and Mycroft chiding him for it, which just lends more proof to the theory.

In any case it's reasonably assumed that his parents were both neither affectionate nor present, but any strong feelings he would hold for or against them are instead shifted over to his brother, with whom he holds a very acidic relationship.

[hacktivist]

son of a BITCH

Mycroft is far too satisfying a man to hate and this is the right journal to say so

[incrediblyfamous]

Arthur Weasley is awesome. The End, basically.

But, no, Arthur is a good guy who always did right by his family. He's not usually the disciplinarian parent and is pretty easy-going, and loves all of his kids, and they love him, and it's all pretty straightforward.

Azazel is Kurt's father, and he's mutant-Satan, and Chuck Austen is terrible... Also there was a sword-fight and he fell off a cliff or something.

Ran Borune XXIII is Ce'Nedra's father. He's kinda old and is some kind of vaguely-defined sick, prone to fits that can cause him to fall out, basically. He and Ce'Nedra argue to the point of screaming at each other, but that's just the weird way in which they communicate, and he does dote on her pretty hardcore. She love him and... also loves making him foam at the mouth and seize before taking his army.

warning: this is long. because look at that icon.

[bedeviledspider]

BEN REILLY WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT FATHER

like, okay, realistically things would have been tough. both he and Elizabeth Tyne were wanted criminals and being on the run from the law 24/7 is no way to raise a kid but they could've made it work

and just thinking about it hurts my heart

because Reilly's actual, living father figures are all pretty much universally terrible. MORE ON THAT IN A MINUTE

We don't really know what Reilly thinks about his birth father. Curse you for playing things so close to the chest, Spider-Son! Clearly, it matters to him that Ben's legacy is preserved -- that's why he trolls around "testing" May all the time. He wants to be sure she's worthy of wearing his Dad's old webs. He's proud of his old man, that much is for certain: when he does talk about the Scarlet Spider it's in very positive terms. But I think, never having had the chance to meet him, he sees Ben as more of a hero than a father. Does that make sense?

Especially because, when listing his "fathers" to Zarathos, the first name that spills out of his mouth? Matt Murdock. I think this says a lot about Matt's role in his life. Sure, Matt's dead. It's not a typical father-son relationship. But what little we see of them in canon says a lot, I think: they're comfortable with one another. Buddy-buddy even. There's a trust there that Reilly will never be able to get from any of his other fathers. And, in the end, it's Matt he chooses to emulate by following his footsteps in both his public and vigilante careers.

Then there's Kaine. Who is the closest thing Reilly has to a father who is actually, you know, ALIVE. I think Kaine genuinely wanted to be a father to Reilly -- why else take the child in, attempt to cure him, and raise him? Unfortunately, Kaine self-sabotages himself, because he's oh-so-good at that. Not only does he get his nephew transformed into a demon, he walks out on the teenager after doing so. And when he does finally see his nephew again? He beats the crap out of him. Great parenting, Kaine! Though the two slowly rebuild their relationship over the course of the various Spider-Girl series, even becoming regular team-up buddies and snark-hurler-at-ers, I don't think Reilly can ever bring himself to fully trust Kaine again.

And finally there's Zarathos. Who seems to consider himself Reilly's Dad because he turned him into a demon against his will. Because periodically trying to hijack your "son"'s body is the loving, fatherly thing to do! Sure! Reilly, on the other hand, is having NONE of it and refuses to give in to any of Zarathos' whiny rants about how he's the worst son ever.